Comments on: Tail docking ban in Scotland http://www.dogsrule.co.uk/blog/health/tail-docking-ban-in-scotland/ News and fun from the world of dogs Fri, 05 Sep 2008 19:54:41 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.3 By: Ewan http://www.dogsrule.co.uk/blog/health/tail-docking-ban-in-scotland/#comment-23221 Ewan Wed, 02 Jul 2008 12:59:23 +0000 http://www.dogsrule.co.uk/blog/health/tail-docking-ban-in-scotland/#comment-23221 Interesting the amount of English based people commenting on the situation in Scotland (the use of RSCPA is a bit of a give away). I'm glad the Scottish Parliament implemented the ban in a sensible way which penalises the owners of dogs who get their dogs' tails docked or allow it to happen without penalising potential rescue dogs, unlike the situation in England. The Animal Welfare Act 2006 as well as banning the above also bans people from showing dogs that have had tails docked where that show has entry paying for spectators, this means that anyone re-homing a dog that had a tail docked prior to arriving at the rescue centre now cannot take part in agility, obedience or flyball at the likes of Crufts or similar shows. Likewise anyone wishing to enter these events at these shows and looking to give a rescue dog a home will avoid dogs that have already suffered. A poor decision by the House of Commons which penalises the dogs for the idiocy of humans!! Interesting the amount of English based people commenting on the situation in Scotland (the use of RSCPA is a bit of a give away).

I’m glad the Scottish Parliament implemented the ban in a sensible way which penalises the owners of dogs who get their dogs’ tails docked or allow it to happen without penalising potential rescue dogs, unlike the situation in England.

The Animal Welfare Act 2006 as well as banning the above also bans people from showing dogs that have had tails docked where that show has entry paying for spectators, this means that anyone re-homing a dog that had a tail docked prior to arriving at the rescue centre now cannot take part in agility, obedience or flyball at the likes of Crufts or similar shows. Likewise anyone wishing to enter these events at these shows and looking to give a rescue dog a home will avoid dogs that have already suffered.

A poor decision by the House of Commons which penalises the dogs for the idiocy of humans!!

]]> By: Maurice McPhillimey http://www.dogsrule.co.uk/blog/health/tail-docking-ban-in-scotland/#comment-18673 Maurice McPhillimey Sun, 17 Feb 2008 13:14:21 +0000 http://www.dogsrule.co.uk/blog/health/tail-docking-ban-in-scotland/#comment-18673 I'm truely fed up with Scotland, I was born in Scotland but moved to England when I joined the army, for the last 15 years I have been working and Breeding working ESS. So when I retired my wish was always to return to Scotland and carry on with my dream of breeding the best working spaniels with outstanding Pedigrees, but I have been here 3 years now hoping for the promise that the SNP would over turn the Labour ban on working dogs. but it seems they are as ban as Labour, now I have stopped Breeding Spaniels and my Pedigree is gone never to return. I'm so fed up with Scotland that I'm now thinking to pack up and move back to England, where there they have a grasp on what working dogs do. I too have seen the horror of a non docked Spaniel with the skin of its tail ripped off whilst working. I’m truely fed up with Scotland, I was born in Scotland but moved to England when I joined the army, for the last 15 years I have been working and Breeding working ESS. So when I retired my wish was always to return to Scotland and carry on with my dream of breeding the best working spaniels with outstanding Pedigrees, but I have been here 3 years now hoping for the promise that the SNP would over turn the Labour ban on working dogs. but it seems they are as ban as Labour, now I have stopped Breeding Spaniels and my Pedigree is gone never to return. I’m so fed up with Scotland that I’m now thinking to pack up and move back to England, where there they have a grasp on what working dogs do. I too have seen the horror of a non docked Spaniel with the skin of its tail ripped off whilst working.

]]> By: hellen http://www.dogsrule.co.uk/blog/health/tail-docking-ban-in-scotland/#comment-16449 hellen Thu, 29 Nov 2007 20:56:28 +0000 http://www.dogsrule.co.uk/blog/health/tail-docking-ban-in-scotland/#comment-16449 Hiya, I dont agree with the ban @ all, its rubbish, ive seen working dogs in agony because they werent docked, Ive also seen pups being docked & they're in no pain, surely they would yelp if that was the case but they never made a sound, the mother was more distressed by a human interfering! The point made about men being 'done' at birth hits the nail on the head! DO YOU REMEMBER? DEFINATLY NOT! Ive just brought a patterdale pup & it has been docked, I wouldnt have purchased it any other way, not just for it to injure its tail & suffer later in life. The remark about removing legs incase of injury is pathetic, are the bones in the leg has thin has a tail bone?Did you ever consider that? Whats frustrating is that REAL BREEDERS never had a choice but to wait & see what 'politics' decided. Surely the RSPCA see the the dogs suffering from injured tails, They wont have seen many cases of dogs suffering from docking, that im positive about because they cant even remember any of it by the time they're weaned off their mother! This ban is more pathetic than the smoking ban! Hiya, I dont agree with the ban @ all, its rubbish, ive seen working dogs in agony because they werent docked, Ive also seen pups being docked & they’re in no pain, surely they would yelp if that was the case but they never made a sound, the mother was more distressed by a human interfering! The point made about men being ‘done’ at birth hits the nail on the head! DO YOU REMEMBER? DEFINATLY NOT! Ive just brought a patterdale pup & it has been docked, I wouldnt have purchased it any other way, not just for it to injure its tail & suffer later in life. The remark about removing legs incase of injury is pathetic, are the bones in the leg has thin has a tail bone?Did you ever consider that? Whats frustrating is that REAL BREEDERS never had a choice but to wait & see what ‘politics’ decided. Surely the RSPCA see the the dogs suffering from injured tails, They wont have seen many cases of dogs suffering from docking, that im positive about because they cant even remember any of it by the time they’re weaned off their mother! This ban is more pathetic than the smoking ban!

]]> By: Dennis Camblin http://www.dogsrule.co.uk/blog/health/tail-docking-ban-in-scotland/#comment-16405 Dennis Camblin Wed, 28 Nov 2007 03:09:13 +0000 http://www.dogsrule.co.uk/blog/health/tail-docking-ban-in-scotland/#comment-16405 A hunter, I have neverr owned a docked dog. I have neither seen not heard of a broken tail in my 40 years of ownership of hounds. Why is it that only a few, specific breeds have their tails lopped off? Am I to understand most hounds (and other) are not hunting dogs? If God had intended dogs to have have docked tails, he would have so ordained. If Evolution had so intended, they would not have had them long ago. Docking is a perversion insisted upon by humans, Show Clubs, not animal lovers. Dockers are intellectually ridiculous. Never mind their ilk. God bless Scotland and all other nations that ban this silly, prancing and effete, practice. A hunter, I have neverr owned a docked dog. I have neither seen not heard of a broken tail in my 40 years of ownership of hounds. Why is it that only a few, specific breeds have their tails lopped off? Am I to understand most hounds (and other) are not hunting dogs?

If God had intended dogs to have have docked tails, he would have so ordained. If Evolution had so intended, they would not have had them long ago. Docking is a perversion insisted upon by humans, Show Clubs, not animal lovers. Dockers are intellectually ridiculous. Never mind their ilk. God bless Scotland and all other nations that ban this silly, prancing and effete, practice.

]]> By: Penny http://www.dogsrule.co.uk/blog/health/tail-docking-ban-in-scotland/#comment-15504 Penny Wed, 24 Oct 2007 10:55:45 +0000 http://www.dogsrule.co.uk/blog/health/tail-docking-ban-in-scotland/#comment-15504 hello to all my fellow dog lovers. My message to everyone is please get your dogs from shelters or rescue leagues. It is so very important. Their are to many dogs that need homes. please don't buy pets at pet stores or from puppy mills. So if you know anyone who is considering a dog please have them check out other avenues. Some of the best dogs come from shelters. Thank you. Penny hello to all my fellow dog lovers. My message to
everyone is please get your dogs from shelters
or rescue leagues. It is so very important. Their
are to many dogs that need homes. please don’t
buy pets at pet stores or from puppy mills.
So if you know anyone who is considering a dog
please have them check out other avenues.
Some of the best dogs come from shelters.
Thank you.
Penny

]]> By: Donna http://www.dogsrule.co.uk/blog/health/tail-docking-ban-in-scotland/#comment-13999 Donna Mon, 30 Jul 2007 12:33:43 +0000 http://www.dogsrule.co.uk/blog/health/tail-docking-ban-in-scotland/#comment-13999 I don't agree with the docking ban at all my family and I have owned and showed bobtails ( old english sheepdogs ) for years and breed many litters hows tails have been removed and I have never heard a puppy cry from the moment the band is put on until the tail falls off and we have never had any health problems with our litters after having its tail docked. The removal of dew claws on the other hand is what causes pain and suffering to puppies as not only is the nail removed but the whole toe itself has to be removed to prevent the nail from growing back so if anything should be banned it shold be that not tail docking. I don’t agree with the docking ban at all my family and I have owned and showed bobtails ( old english sheepdogs ) for years and breed many litters hows tails have been removed and I have never heard a puppy cry from the moment the band is put on until the tail falls off and we have never had any health problems with our litters after having its tail docked.

The removal of dew claws on the other hand is what causes pain and suffering to puppies as not only is the nail removed but the whole toe itself has to be removed to prevent the nail from growing back so if anything should be banned it shold be that not tail docking.

]]> By: Billy http://www.dogsrule.co.uk/blog/health/tail-docking-ban-in-scotland/#comment-13418 Billy Fri, 22 Jun 2007 16:18:13 +0000 http://www.dogsrule.co.uk/blog/health/tail-docking-ban-in-scotland/#comment-13418 If nature had wanted undocked tails it would never have allowed breeding which changed the parameters of tails away from bushy ones like foxes and wolves which incidently do not hunt prey like Springers so do not get caught up in gorse and barbed wire fences. When are the SNP going to allow the docking of working dogs in Scotland like they promoised in their manifesto. I have 3 Springers and to see their little docks tails wagging furiously is a joy to behold. If nature had wanted undocked tails it would never have allowed breeding which changed the parameters of tails away from bushy ones like foxes and wolves which incidently do not hunt prey like Springers so do not get caught up in gorse and barbed wire fences.
When are the SNP going to allow the docking of working dogs in Scotland like they promoised in their manifesto.
I have 3 Springers and to see their little docks tails wagging furiously is a joy to behold.

]]> By: Clive http://www.dogsrule.co.uk/blog/health/tail-docking-ban-in-scotland/#comment-11773 Clive Thu, 17 May 2007 10:57:23 +0000 http://www.dogsrule.co.uk/blog/health/tail-docking-ban-in-scotland/#comment-11773 Half way there but the campaign must continue to have all tail docking banned. If having a long, bushy tail was a hindrance to chasing prey through thick undergrowth then foxes and wolves would have lost their tails through evolution. Mother Nature knows far better than man. There is no credible scientific evidence to suggest that undocked dogs are any more likely to sustain injury than docked dogs. If a dog has a weak tail then that is probably due to years of manipulative breeding. Half way there but the campaign must continue to have all tail docking banned.

If having a long, bushy tail was a hindrance to chasing prey through thick undergrowth then foxes and wolves would have lost their tails through evolution. Mother Nature knows far better than man.

There is no credible scientific evidence to suggest that undocked dogs are any more likely to sustain injury than docked dogs.

If a dog has a weak tail then that is probably due to years of manipulative breeding.

]]> By: shaikh baba http://www.dogsrule.co.uk/blog/health/tail-docking-ban-in-scotland/#comment-9806 shaikh baba Wed, 25 Apr 2007 07:29:15 +0000 http://www.dogsrule.co.uk/blog/health/tail-docking-ban-in-scotland/#comment-9806 hii evry one i hve 2 dogs.. which is doked and its name is junior baba and shakih baba... I will not deliberately subject a vunerable animal to the possibility of a lifetime of pain. hii evry one
i hve 2 dogs.. which is doked and its name is junior baba and shakih baba…
I will not deliberately subject a vunerable animal to the possibility of a lifetime of pain.

]]> By: jimmy http://www.dogsrule.co.uk/blog/health/tail-docking-ban-in-scotland/#comment-8443 jimmy Fri, 20 Apr 2007 10:14:50 +0000 http://www.dogsrule.co.uk/blog/health/tail-docking-ban-in-scotland/#comment-8443 Further to my last. Nobody is shouting and balling about the thousands of lambs that have been born this month and last that are all having there tails removed not by a surgeon but by a farmer putting an elastic band on them till they drop off, only to be taken to the slaughter house in 5 months time. Where are the politicians on this one???? Further to my last. Nobody is shouting and balling about the thousands of lambs that have been born this month and last that are all having there tails removed not by a surgeon but by a farmer putting an elastic band on them till they drop off, only to be taken to the slaughter house in 5 months time. Where are the politicians on this one????

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